| Posted by dazle, 04-18-2016, 06:53 PM | |
Hi
I've been a shared reseller for a about 5 years, for the past 3+ of which with EZPZ, however recent problems and loss of confidence with them are forcing me to move on and make me sort out something I've been considering for a while - a VPS account
I'm at the stage now, I'm alright playing with the cmd prompt as a computer engineer but as a noobie to VPS and just used to working in a windows OS environment these days I think its best I start off with a managed account
Ideally I'm looking at a budget of max $200 given that I'm off to India on hols next month and no one is due renewal until later this year
I'm presently handling 9 clients for hosting (I don't resell to randoms, I just host who I've done work for that wants hosting). Their monthly data usage and server space is quite minimal. A package with upto 1 gig ram, <10gb hdd would suffice. Those with timely email accounts are presently moving over to network solutions and I prefer to code so disk space is no issue
I cannot afford any significant disruption to my clients sites, some of which are not geographically far from me and 1 of which is a kick boxer and I can't fight my way out of a paper bag
Anyone got any tips etc and ofc recommendations on who to approach for this kind of migration?
Yes, yes I've read through and still am doing of the posts offering flashy neon lights in the buy my VPS **** forum, but I'm out my depth as not had to consider moving hosts for a long time
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| Posted by ryus, 04-18-2016, 06:59 PM | |
200$ yearly for a cpanel managed vps? That's quite low considering cpanel license cost around 12-15$ per month.
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| Posted by dazle, 04-18-2016, 07:14 PM | |
Very fair point
I think my northern English streak got the better of me when I typed the OP
Let's say $300 ish realistic budget
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| Posted by ryus, 04-18-2016, 07:19 PM | |
That is still a bit low considering management is required as well. For cpanel, 2 GB memory is recommended if you have more than a couple of sites.
From your needs, a good reseller account for a decent host like Hostwithlove, Mightweb, Bigscoots, Buyshared etc will be a better choice. You can get a small VPS on the side to learn things if you want. That seems the best way forward for now, IMO.
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| Posted by MightWeb-Marcus, 04-18-2016, 07:56 PM | |
If you're looking into a Managed solution with cPanel, you'll be looking at $25 and up a month - with most being far more expensive than that. If you want SSD's instead of HDD's, you'll be looking at $35+/month.
Would you mind sharing what it is that forced you into these thoughts? Your usage does not sound like it requires a VPS - and it seems a VPS might in fact be quite the waste of money for you - you might simply need to find a provider that you feel you can trust!
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| Posted by dazle, 04-18-2016, 09:15 PM | |
Yeah, agreed on the higher budget. I'm not rolling in $ atm and I've just lost a client that would've paid out $2,000 due to an admin **** up at present host during recent renewal
Many thanks for the list of suggestions
Hmph, so I should be looking at 2 gig with cpanel. That's the emergency beer token fund getting tapped into for VPS
As for switching to VPS, reasons are not for server tweaking, but affording a better, stable, less prone to attacks and reliable service and not being shown a reverse lookup by a client of their premium hosting I've provided
How do other resellers handle problems when things go wrong as the do and will do?
I must admit I'm also thinking of using a secondary service to switch to and changing nameservers to that cache cloud thing so i can switch instantly without tapping my foot for dns propopgation
I'm getting my knickers in a twist I think
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| Posted by MightWeb-Marcus, 04-18-2016, 09:21 PM | |
Shared webservers typically employ far more security tweaks than your average VPS, for the mere fact that they host many more users. Paid malware detection systems, better firewalling and so on are much more common on a shared box - not to mention the fact that treats like LiteSpeed are often included, whilst that'd be an extra ~$15/mo on a VPS.
Did the client leave you because they did an rDNS lookup and figured out you were reselling? If so - reselling is nothing to be ashamed of in any way. Hiding it doesn't make sense either - you're providing a service, like any other company. Whether it's YOUR server or not, is not relevant.
CloudFlare can be a good thing if you're worried about DDoS - but then again, a provider with DDoS protection might be a good idea.
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| Posted by dazle, 04-18-2016, 09:50 PM | |
Fair point about not hiding in the closet as a reseller. I dunno, I've been hosting a few years now and on my 3rd or 4th host who I've now been with a few years. Previous ones ended in tears, some of the problems were down to the shared hosting being overwhelmed by heavy usage from others on the server and the attraction of server wide hijacks of (sorry to admit) wp sites I have done and do on occasion.
Said client spat the dummy after present host suspended their account 3 times, in fact they suspended my reseller account 3 times over a 48 period until I identified what the problem was that they'd caused even though they told me twice it was my fault lol
The reverse lookup was a different client
CloudFlare, that's it. I've used it in the past but it seemed a bit unreliable on deciding if a site is up or down and I gave up on it when they randomly changed nameservers of a yoga website in egypt to some bridalware site in the UK. I was thinking of using them again so if I have a mirrored account as a fallback I could just update nameservers on there. I'm not an eggs in 1 basket person now I'm no longer just running my star trek blog
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| Posted by MightWeb-Marcus, 04-18-2016, 10:55 PM | |
I hear you - but to me, that sounds like you just haven't found the right provider. That's not to say that your previous ones were neccesarily bad companies at all - they might just not have been right for you.
That's the con of not owning your own hardware. As providers, we see this every now and then - with websites being infected or hijacked, and in turn sending out massive amounts of SPAM - or setting up phishing websites. There are ways to - as a provider - protect yourself from it, but in the end - if a website is risking the providers IP reputation, they might need to suspend it prior to notifying you.
Then again, the same thing would happen on a VPS - which is just as much of a shared platform as anything else.
I haven't heard of any cases where people are having issues with CloudFlare reporting sites as down even though they're up. I'm personally not a huge fan of CloudFlare's DNS as I haven't experienced it actually speeding anything up - but more often than not, people use it for different reasons. Some use it to hide their provider, some use it to get some additional protection.
P.S. Star Trek: TNG was the best Star Trek ever. Jean-Luc is awesome.
Last edited by MightWeb-Marcus; 04-18-2016 at 11:07 PM.
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| Posted by net, 04-19-2016, 08:48 AM | |
It is like a drama huh? :-)
If you want to get away from reseller hosting, then prepare to spend more and do not limit your budget to it.
Managed vps will cost a bit more but it will make your life easier.
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| Posted by HostWithLove_Cody, 04-19-2016, 02:37 PM | |
Thanks for the recommendation!
@dazle: What was/were the issue(s) you were having with EZPZHosting? I would say don't be daunted by getting a Reseller Package due to your poor experience with one hosting provider. In many cases you get better software/features with a Reseller Package as compared to getting your own VPS - sure you can get the same features with the VPS, but they will definitely cost extra and just for 9 clients, I don't think it will be worthwhile to break the bank with a VPS (and added softwares).
I think the main issue here is how the parent company handles such attacks (which do occur from time to time) and whether they have enough measures to deal with such attacks. For these you may have to inquire with the respective company to find out more on how they deal with issue A, issue B, etc... and how much downtime is expected should they arise.
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| Posted by SenseiSteve, 04-19-2016, 03:44 PM | |
I agree with @HostWithLove_Cody. Bad experiences with one or more previous providers does not necessarily translate into a bad experience with another. This really sounds like you'd best be served with a reseller account.
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| Posted by CableChief, 04-19-2016, 05:16 PM | |
A VPS will provide more control as you've said, but going managed for a smallish budget will be a pain in the rear.
cPanel has great documentation and as long as you follow the security recommendations in the documentation, you should be alright. You can save a lot of money going un-managed, Linux isn't that scary, especially since the VPS host will be doing most of the leg work making sure everything stays online.
If you're looking for something in the UK, expect to pay more. If you look to France, you might get yourself a bargain.
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| Posted by bespokehosting, 04-19-2016, 08:15 PM | |
As others have said if your wanting a good managed VPS service would expect to pay circa $300-400 per year. I would recommend a good reseller package from a trusted host is what you need.
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