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private nameserver or domain registrar nameserver ?

Posted by bickyz, 12-17-2014, 04:15 PM
Hi, I have a vps with one ip and I am looking to host few websites. These websites domain are registered with various registrar like 123reg, netfirms & godaddy. Currently these domains are using their registrar nameservers. What is the reason for setting/using my personal nameserver instead of the domain registrar ? Is it only branding ? Let says if I stick to the domain registrar nameserver but point A record to my VPS hosting and MX to the google apps business. Will there be any issue with this ? Any help would be much appreciated, thank you.

Posted by domaincart, 12-17-2014, 09:58 PM
DNS management of each domain on your registrar may take more time(or doing it for your customers will be hard). Using DNS of registrars may affect uptime and may not looks professional.

Posted by ralphj, 12-18-2014, 12:52 AM
Why would it not look professional ? Branding is not that important if you take into account the quality of the name servers - registrar name servers will always answer faster.

Posted by Kailash12, 12-18-2014, 04:29 AM
Absolutely there is no issue with this. In fact if you are using third party email service, you should not DNS hosted on your VPS because in case if there is any issue on your VPS, your email service will be stopped as well. If you use your registrar's DNS, your email service will function even if there is any issue with your VPS.

Posted by Website themes, 12-18-2014, 08:45 AM
Branding is important especially if you are in the business of selling web hosting. To use a registrar's nameservers is to tell your customers that you don't trust the reliability of your own DNS hosting. Registrar nameservers aren't always better. Namecheap's servers have been down so much. They tend to attract DDoS attacks. This brings me to another point - if you rely on your registrar's nameservers then that's another failure point for your website. Your webserver could be up but your sites inaccessible because the registrar's DNS servers are down.

Posted by Website themes, 12-18-2014, 08:48 AM
That's what secondary servers are for... Also email was designed in an age when communication links were unreliable. SMTP servers will retry for up to 3 days before giving up on delivering your email to you.

Posted by Kailash12, 12-19-2014, 08:17 AM
He has only one VPS so there is no point for secondary nameservers. Also email delivery depends on the senders' email server configuration. We can't say all emails will retry for at least 3 days. This totally depends on the senders' mail server configuration.

Posted by Website themes, 12-19-2014, 08:44 AM
You can use he.net for free secondaries.

Posted by Kailash12, 12-19-2014, 08:56 AM
If he wants to use third party DNS then there is no need to go for he.net. He is already using his registrar's DNS service.

Posted by Website themes, 12-19-2014, 09:02 AM
Oh god! I've already explained the downsides of using registrar's nameservers above. Using a 3rd party slave server like the he.net one adds redundancy to your DNS setup. OTOH using only a registrar's servers as both primary and secondary creates an additional failure point. See my post above.

Posted by Kailash12, 12-19-2014, 01:32 PM
So do you think he.net DNS will never go down? Most registrars use multiple DNS servers (like he.net uses). Following is the reference thread for he.net: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1071733

Posted by Website themes, 12-19-2014, 02:54 PM
The point is that it could go down and you would not be affected because you are using your own VPS for the primary dns servers.

Posted by Kailash12, 12-22-2014, 08:07 AM
You should not your VPS DNS as well as third party DNS. It will not provide redundancy during failure. This is not the way DNS fail over works. If you think it works in this way, I can sign up for several free DNS provider and create necessary DNS zone on all servers to avoid possible DNS outage but this is absolutely incorrect setup. Anyway, let OP decide whether he should use registrar DNS, VPS DNS or third party DNS.

Posted by Website themes, 12-22-2014, 08:42 AM
You are mistaken. We use multiple DNS servers so that if one goes down the others can still serve records for your zone. It does provide redundancy. DNS failover is something entirely different and you are confusing it with the age old master/slave setup that I'm talking about.



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