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Posted by IMCoach, 04-12-2006, 04:17 PM
I would really appreciate any input or advice you got for me on this... I have around a 100 clients... I started out in this biz not knowing how well I would do and just set up a simple reseller acct with Site5 and for the most part I've been extremely satisfied with the setup... support etc... and would love to continue with them unfortunatly I am pondering if I shouldn't move to a VPS or Dedicated.. I have room for upgrading with Site5. But in a year where might I be? And is it good to have so many clients on a shared server? All questions I'm contimplating... I was thinking I could just keep Site5... keep the clients I have there including all my sites.. And then just get another set up with another host and work with both starting to filter biz to it. Or... Would it be worth the time and effort to move everything? Or... Do I wait til Site5 does add servers for this purpose..? Thanks in advance. -Matt

Posted by layer0, 04-12-2006, 04:22 PM
I would get a second reseller account from another host and divide new orders up. It's good to not have all your eggs in one basket

Posted by jmweb, 04-12-2006, 04:23 PM
Why not try and get multiple reseller accounts?

Posted by nax9, 04-12-2006, 04:33 PM
With 100 clients, depending how much they pay, I would go for a dedicated. "less" chance of one client bringing the server down, and you'd have total control over the server and it's environment.

Posted by dolay, 04-12-2006, 05:08 PM
if i were you , i will get a cPanel VPS or a celeron dedicated first and start to host a few hosting accounts there and experience first for a few months and continue my reseller account for any possible failure to manage a server [ though this was what i was doing 3 years ago while enlarging my business ]. It is not easy to manage a server and you may crash with problems that will make you stuck there for days if you move your 100 customers into a vps or dedicated

Posted by VanHost, 04-12-2006, 05:32 PM
This comes down to cashflow, in my opinion. If these customers are $5 per month ($500 total) vs. $20 per month ($2000 total), there are different routes you should take. If they are smaller clients (less money), I would opt for another reseller account. If you are happy with your current provider, stick with them. Simply request that your new reseller account be placed on a different server from the current one. That will solve some of the "eggs in one basket" problem. Unless their network goes down, which could happen to anyone, things are nicely divided for you. If they are larger clients (more money), I would opt for "at the very least" 2 VPS accounts. If you aren't comfortable with the management side of things, hire someone to take care of that for you. Ie. A 3rd party server management company. Start with just 1 VPS though and only place new orders on it. This will give you a chance to test the waters with your new provider before putting your whole business in their hands. Once you've found a provider you're happy with, start the migration process. Nobody likes migrating clients, it's a pain in the butt. However, it's a part of the business. Even for large companies that want to upgrade their equipment/infrastructure, there is still a "migration" process that occurs.

Posted by layer0, 04-12-2006, 06:43 PM
I would recommend against going the VPS route, VPSes generally don't have too great performance - dedicated servers are truly the way to go.

Posted by CyberHostPro, 04-12-2006, 07:26 PM
VPS can go slow if servers overloaded, so depends who you go with really. the cheaper the VPS the more overloaded the server will be.

Posted by ayksolutions, 04-12-2006, 07:54 PM
If you are going to go for a server, I'd highly recommend to not get a Celeron or a Sempron. Go for atleast a P4 or an Athlon. This will leave room for upgrading and you won't have to jump ship and upgrade again (although this should be easy, but still a pain) to another server.

Posted by chamelion, 04-13-2006, 05:58 AM
the whole point of a vps is that you are guaranteed particular resources... if you're going with any half decent vps provider, you won't face this problem.

Posted by realvaluehosting, 04-13-2006, 07:57 AM
Go with dedicated server only if you know how to manage them

Posted by ldcdc, 04-13-2006, 09:59 AM
chrisbuk still has a point. Very cheap VPSs point to overselling, which can lead to overloading. The whole minimum guaranteed resources can come and bite the behind of the customer, for when only those guaranteed resources can be used, the result is not exactly a fast performing hosting environment.

Posted by Swelly, 04-13-2006, 10:21 AM
Well it all boils down to are you going to manage these solutions such as dedicated server, would you be the one managing the server? If not, then I suggest you stick with a managed VPS solution at this point. On the other hand if you have some experience in server management then I would say at the rate you are growing it might just be best to avoid hassle later on down the road by purchasing a dedicated server now. Furthermore, you should really consider your budget because a good dedicated box with managed service will most likely be in upwards of $200 - $280 per month. You have to factor in your budget with your plans aswell.

Posted by ThePrimeHost, 04-13-2006, 11:35 AM
Agreed. Additionally you can offer "multiple domain and or reseller accounts" with a dedicated server. For future growth that's what I would go for.



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