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FDC Down

Posted by Trek, 12-04-2004, 02:30 AM
Their own website is not responding, down as of 10:28pm PST.

Posted by coski, 12-04-2004, 02:49 AM
I'm down as well

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 03:03 AM
Website replies, IRC is fried for me ~Francisco

Posted by coski, 12-04-2004, 03:09 AM
it appears that i'm back online now. Still on the slow side. Edit. Down again

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 03:12 AM
Web is full speed for me, no drop out's or anything. But IRC seems to be dropping, with 180ms pings (around 3x higher than it should be). All i can figure is, is that it's a attack of sorts

Posted by Trek, 12-04-2004, 03:19 AM
Well, I'd hope that my server is nowhere near any of the IRC servers... since I don't have IRC anything with them... Kinda why I host my IRC server elsewhere from my other hosts... ugh...

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 03:23 AM
a guy's saying that it looks like another Level3 routing issue, since it's not just on the IRC side for him ~Francisco

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 03:29 AM
Level 3 is having problems, I know a pop is having a problem, and rumor has it that an oc192 is down. -HTN

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 03:33 AM
(01:30:50) Rack Masters - Systems Administrator - New Backup Service In Place: you can post, as my box 66.90.104.xxx is 200ms Just thought i'd post that

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 03:33 AM
Why don't they just click it all over to cogent or whatever their fall over is :\ ~Francisco

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 03:35 AM
Not sure, i guess because that is the logical thing to do

Posted by bummer6666, 12-04-2004, 03:41 AM
yes it`s L3 and they are working to fix the issue. There is about %60 % packet loss and they are saying it will be fixed shortly the COgent is unaffected

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 03:42 AM
Keep everyone posted Petr =\ Is this only a issue between fdc <--> l3 ? or is there other people affected too? ~Francisco

Posted by bummer6666, 12-04-2004, 03:46 AM
not sure..but if you`ll do the traceroute you`ll see the problem starts L3 network. To be totaly honest we`ve had so many problems with them in last 2 months that we`re seriously thinking about ditching them. Their uptime has been 100 times crappier than Cogent`s

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 03:48 AM
TO be honest, while YIPES was a whore about reporting in, they were SOLID for me and others too. It just seems that l3 is blowing up in each area. A little bit ago poor Sagonet was getting beaten up by them, then it was S4Y, and now you guys. I hope you guys scare some sence into them, 'cuz really, for the cost that l3 must be, you should not be getting no where near as much as this ~Francisco

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 03:49 AM
bummer, if the cogent is unnaffected, then why isnt the datacenter up on the cogent bandwith?

Posted by AtomixNetwork, 12-04-2004, 03:52 AM
Ditch them and make us all happy

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 03:54 AM
Ping statistics for 66.90.103.xxx: Packets: Sent = 162, Received = 71, Lost = 91 (56% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 180ms, Maximum = 201ms, Average = 82ms

Posted by johnnyo, 12-04-2004, 03:54 AM
level3 should be very nice, sure its no attack thing or something?

Posted by superprogram, 12-04-2004, 03:57 AM
What is FDC?

Posted by Punker1985, 12-04-2004, 03:58 AM
johnnyo it's an attack on the l3 router of 4.79.72.46 there is nothing FDC can do except for bitch @ l3

Posted by RossH, 12-04-2004, 04:00 AM
L3 in chicago is having some major problems. For our Broadband customers we have a L3 pipe that comes outt chicago and everyone is having problems and we are logging calls like crazy.

Posted by tek, 12-04-2004, 04:02 AM
Can't traffic be diverted to Cogent or some other provider that FDC is contracted with (BGP)? Last edited by tek; 12-04-2004 at 04:15 AM.

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 04:03 AM
Yes, it can. I want to know why it hasnt yet.

Posted by RossH, 12-04-2004, 04:03 AM
From St. Louis, MO Target Name: www.fdcservers.net IP: 66.90.66.135 Date/Time: 12/4/2004 2:01:41 AM 1 12 ms 222 ms 12 ms 314 ms 13 ms [10.18.160.1] 2 166 ms 281 ms 12 ms 287 ms 10 ms [24.217.2.157] 3 11 ms 256 ms 13 ms 286 ms 11 ms [24.217.63.193] 4 12 ms 275 ms 14 ms 261 ms 11 ms [24.217.63.194] 5 14 ms 294 ms 14 ms 236 ms 14 ms fl1-014.charter-stl.com [24.217.4.14] 6 35 ms 317 ms 22 ms 222 ms 26 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.chi1.bbnplanet.net [4.79.74.1] 7 N/A N/A 21 ms 197 ms 20 ms so-3-3-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.96.41] 8 N/A N/A 22 ms 172 ms 22 ms so-7-0-0.gar1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.96.50] 9 * 363 ms N/A N/A 149 ms [4.79.72.46] 10 * 389 ms * * 143 ms [209.120.176.2] 11 149 ms 364 ms * 289 ms 150 ms mail.web.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135] Ping statistics for www.fdcservers.net Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 4, Lost = 1 (20.0%) Round Trip Times: Minimum = 149ms, Maximum = 364ms, Average = 238ms

Posted by DeltaAnime, 12-04-2004, 04:16 AM
Has there been any ground made petr, on either getting l3 happy, or getting cogent online? ~Francisco

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 04:33 AM
Tracing route to fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254 2 102 ms 7 ms 7 ms adsl-68-75-85-254.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net [68.75.85.254] 3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dist2-vlan50.milwwi.ameritech.net [65.43.19.227] 4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms bb1-g1-0.milwwi.ameritech.net [65.43.19.99] 5 220 ms 50 ms 47 ms bb2-p11-3.milwwi.sbcglobal.net [151.164.189.198] 6 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms bb1-p4-0.emhril.ameritech.net [151.164.190.97] 7 222 ms 11 ms 10 ms bb2-p13-0.emhril.ameritech.net [151.164.191.174] 8 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ex2-p6-3.eqchil.sbcglobal.net [151.164.40.86] 9 11 ms 11 ms 136 ms asn174-Cogent.eqchil.sbcglobal.net [151.164.249.214] 10 176 ms 10 ms 11 ms p12-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.241] 11 128 ms 411 ms 2133 ms FDC_Servers.demarc.cogentco.com [38.112.0.234] 12 1704 ms 1668 ms 1466 ms mail.web.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135] Trace complete. Got that from a freind.

Posted by BSDAxis, 12-04-2004, 04:35 AM
What's the current status of everyone's dedicated servers? I am only having 25% packet loss when I ping my main IP address. I did a traceroute on the IP, and it seems that LEVEL3 has gotten some of the issues fixed.

Posted by johnnyo, 12-04-2004, 04:36 AM
just noticed another full dropout, even fdc homepage/board and after this, incoming cogen/outgoing also, but still 45% loss to europe weird...

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 04:36 AM
hmm... got this from myself 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.254.254 2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms dsl-254.grp22.tnmmrl.infoave.net [204.116.106.25 4] 3 10 ms <10 ms <10 ms vlan2.gwy.tnmmrl.infoave.net [64.53.83.66] 4 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms 66.238.242.17.ptr.us.xo.net [66.238.242.17] 5 50 ms 50 ms 20 ms p4-3-0.MAR2.Nashville-TN.us.xo.net [207.88.85.10 9] 6 30 ms 20 ms 80 ms p5-1-0-3.RAR2.Atlanta-GA.us.xo.net [65.106.4.49] 7 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms p1-0-0.RAR2.Washington-DC.us.xo.net [65.106.0.5] 8 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms p1-0.IR1.Ashburn-VA.us.xo.net [65.106.3.138] 9 40 ms 40 ms 50 ms p12-5.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10 .249] 10 40 ms 50 ms 40 ms p11-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2. 197] 11 50 ms 40 ms 50 ms p6-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.82 ] 12 40 ms 50 ms 51 ms p15-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.1 4] 13 70 ms 80 ms 70 ms p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.8 6] 14 80 ms 70 ms 70 ms FDC_Servers.demarc.cogentco.com [38.112.0.234] 15 70 ms 70 ms 80 ms mail.web.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135]

Posted by BSDAxis, 12-04-2004, 04:41 AM
I notice that the IP 209.120.155.14 is getting request timed out on traceroute.

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 04:41 AM
Ping statistics for 66.90.66.135: Packets: Sent = 219, Received = 219, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 70ms, Maximum = 81ms, Average = 71ms

Posted by johnnyo, 12-04-2004, 04:47 AM
hey.. just got an idea, why dont you switch level3 and cogent .. cogent incoming and level3 out? would that change something? huh.. seems to be fixed now..!!

Posted by BSDAxis, 12-04-2004, 04:51 AM
no, its not fixed. When I ping my server, I get 50% loss =|. I hope this gets fixed promtly. Customers are complaining ugh.

Posted by johnnyo, 12-04-2004, 04:52 AM
weird.. i just tested both outgoing ping to europe from fdc, and back from europe to my server, 0% packet loss. : 52 packets transmitted, 52 received, 0% packet loss, time 51058ms

Posted by Trek, 12-04-2004, 04:56 AM
My server seems to be back up, no packet loss, decent ping times.

Posted by BSDAxis, 12-04-2004, 05:10 AM
What network are you on with FDCServers? The Web hosting network, or the IRC Network? I am currently on the IRC Network, and I still have no luck. Here is my ping results: Pinging 208.53.145.130 with 32 bytes of data: Reply 208.53.145.130: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=48 Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 208.53.145.130: Packets: sent = 4, Recieved = 1, Lost (75% loss) Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 192ms, Maximum = 192ms, Average = 192ms

Posted by HostTheNet, 12-04-2004, 05:10 AM
seems like fdc is slowly making a come back, im routed thru cogent now.

Posted by Homeslice, 12-04-2004, 03:54 PM
Hi, Does anyone know anything about Yipes NET dedicated Intenet service ? I was wondering what it is costing people on the average for say a 1mbps-10mbps. And any feedback on experiences with their service will be much appreciated. Thanks, Homeslice PM me if you'd like.

Posted by IGobyTerry, 12-04-2004, 04:02 PM
Tracing route to fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 37 ms 16 ms 15 ms h-66-167-210-1.sfldmidn.dynamic.covad.net [66.167.210.1] 2 17 ms 16 ms 15 ms 192.168.7.97 3 18 ms 18 ms 16 ms ge-5-1-133.hsa1.Detroit1.Level3.net [63.211.20.185] 4 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms ge-6-1-0.mp1.Detroit1.Level3.net [64.159.4.185] 5 22 ms 39 ms 22 ms so-0-1-0.bbr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [64.159.1.34] 6 24 ms 23 ms 35 ms so-7-0-0.gar1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.96.50] 7 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms 4.79.72.42 8 25 ms 22 ms 23 ms 209.120.176.2 9 25 ms 24 ms 23 ms mail.web.fdcservers.net [66.90.66.135] It's all perty for me now

Posted by jsw6, 12-04-2004, 04:04 PM
Yipes, like any other carrier, isn't going to give you a bargain on a 10Mbps commit. I assume your desire to be with Yipes is driven by cost. You'd be better off with an economy hosting / co-location product than trying to deal with carriers directly at that small traffic level. You'll end up paying upwards of $50/Mbps, and probably close to $100/Mbps, for almost any carrier transit product at 10Mbps. Beyond that, Yipes isn't a great choice of carrier from a technical perspective. They support virtually no BGP community features, and I doubt they'll ever invest man-hours in adding them. If you're going to buy from a carrier directly, choose one who can suit your needs. If you can't afford that, just find an economy hosting product that you're happy with until you grow into something bigger.



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